By Avatar JayR Cela :
My sincere appoligies to Cataplexia and Clifford for leaving out thier excellent presentation, before this article was first posted earlier today.
So on April 13 we had our next meeting with the Alternate Metaverse or AMV grid, whom I had heard quite a bit about in the past year or so, due to the large number of events they regularly schedule on a daily basis. I had attended several in the recent past,and being impressed I was anxious to see their presentation. After an impressive and lengthly presentation of what AMV had to offer, the floor was open to questions from the 3RG attendees. Some of these questions and supplied answers, left more than one of us head scratching.
Greetings everyone and welcome to our presentation of Alternate Metaverse, Our Virtual World Grid in OpenSim. Alternate Metaverse is one of the largest and fastest growing and most stable grids in all of OpenSim. We are the two owners of Alternate Metaverse which we commonly call AMV,
HISTORY
Alternate Metaverse began as a company founded by Cataplexia Numbers in Second life back in 2007, which included Stores and SL Marketplace Items which were her personal creations. As she added more and more goods and services, Alternate Metaverse grew and expanded into InWorldz and OpenSim.
In 2019 when Cataplexia Numbers and Clifford Hanger became partners in the virtual world, they decided to do so business-wise as well.
Clifford had started a small Semi private Grid named VWorld and had been working on making it more established and very secure before going public with it.
Once married in August 2019, they changed the name of VWorld and made the newly emerging and fast growing Alternate Metaverse Grid a joint effort.
OUR GRID
Alternate Metaverse Opened our doors to the public on Dec. 5th 2019 and is a very stable grid running on very reliable dedicated servers.
We are using cutting edge OpenSim Code with modifications to incorporate Gloebits, eZombie and parts of LaNanni code, all new code is tested on our Test Grid and here on our Yeti regions [3, 5x5s] We use bulletsim as standard, regions can choose to use UBODE on request.
On May 1st we will be rolling out the new Nessie Code throughout our grid. It has been tested on our Test grid for months first to ensure reliability and stability and the tests have yielded excellent results. Cliff has been adding more and more features on the technical level, and creating innovative scripts and HUDs as Cat has been adding more regions and features within the livable grid and aiding our residents in navigating them.
We are recognized in OpenSim as the fastest growing grid in the metaverse.
Our grid is Adults only and filled with a wide variety of clubs, schools, art galleries, Free shopping areas & Malls, Holiday & Seasonal regions, beaches with swimming and surfing (including 3 clothing optional beaches), castles and fantasy areas!
We are for the most part, a very large and close knit family on AMV, welcoming to visitors and newcomers from all over the world. We are a very safe and inclusive environment without discrimination of race, gender, sexual orientation and choices.
We do not open our doors to child Avatars as we once did due to numerous problems with sexual age play and children approaching adults to adopt and finance them.
We do not ban other grids on the Hypergrid easily but have when attacked with copybot viewers causing damage to regions. We now detect Copybot viewers and ban entry to our grid to those who use them.
In our events, we all watch out for other scheduled events and avoid stacking multiple events at one time to ensure a greater number of people attending these events. As opensim grows more we shall expand on that because there will be more attendees.
We celebrate and respect the individual rights of creators to give free content or charge if they decide to. If you created it, you should have the right to choose whatever you wish to do with it. Despite this fact, most content is free on AMV or very low cost in a few circumstances.
WELCOME
We welcome you to Alternate Metaverse Grid, a warm friendly Adults-Only grid with Sail-able Open Waters & Air.
Copy and Save your own OAR from our website, Self Restarts & Rollbacks.
Self serve performance check.
Low cost land packages, Regional God powers available, Super fast Land Creation & Customer Service. Large reliable servers. Online since 2019, FREE HOMESTEADS, 2 FREE weeks on your first land purchase, and a choice of many FREE pre-built regions you can have put on your land.
AMV is a community grid filled with Parks, Beaches, Diverse types of Roleplay including GOT & Adult, Arts, Performers & DJs Daily, Karaoke, Open Mic, Zoos, Galleries, Community Areas, Clubs, Luxury Cruise Ship, Spas, Several Malls & Stores, Raceway Island Regions, Amusement Park, Zombie Hunt, Adult Getaways, Dinkies World, Memorial, Spiritual & Chakra Exploration & Education, Game Nights and countless places to Explore & Enjoy!
Own a region for as low as 5$ USD monthly! The Home of The Arts, Chakras In Motion, Mystical Paths, Prana, Samsara, Serenity Chapel and Koryphon Academy.
OUR OFFERING TO 3RD ROCK GRID MIGRANTS
For the current expansion proposal we are prepared to Offer:
A) Exclusive use of a whole new dedicated Region server will run 60 to 70 regions of mixed size @ $500 per month, or
B) Use of 50% of the above @ $285 per month, or
C) Free regions for your “Nuna” gallery region, Free Educational regions and new regions at our current rates for up to 5x5 regions, and specials by negotiation prim count, size, god mode.
If you do choose option C. - Cliff and I would like to make an offer to 3RD Rock Grid migrators, to house Nuna Gallery and your school at zero cost. We support the Arts and Education very strongly. We could integrate your existing classes into Koryphon Academy if you wish, or provide you with free land to house your school on. Frankly I feel that integrating with Koryphon Academy would provide an inlet into the community here so it might be a good path to follow, but the choice is up to you, we are fine with whatever you decide.
For many reasons we feel that the 3RD Rock Grid residents would find a happy and peaceful new home in our world and we would equally be happy to expand our AMV Family!
A place like Alternate Metaverse feels incomplete without Space RP, it is almost as if we were waiting for your amazing Starfleet RP to make us whole!
SAFETY – ON A SAFE GRID, NO ONE LOSES
Our expansion into grid creation, we decided to create a place that will allow the consumer freedom. I came from InWorldz and I lost a lot there as one of the biggest creators in InWorldz. I owned many different stores filled with my original content – including a texture store where I lost many of my textures... lost a lot of my art.
We wanted to create a place where people don’t lose....period
PERSONAL INFO & DATA - AMV takes only an email address from customers NO Personal, Credit or financial info ever hits our servers, we do not even ask for your real name, avatar names only.
MONEY - We arranged for money to not be handled by the grid...We use PayPal and Gloebits...So people never lose cash here...they can redeem cash and Gloebits externally to AMV.
LAND - We set up Cold storage so people if in the hospital or on vacation or extended leave will NEVER lose land that they have built on as well as the ability to save their regions at any time to their hard drive. We allow all residents to do their own OAR downloads, Region Restarts, Region Rollbacks AND have regional god powers if they choose to do so.
SAFE is freedom from risk of financial loss, we neither collect or store any private information other than your email in order to contact you, this is linked to your Grid Avatar and securely encrypted password. This means it is impossible to be financially hacked.
SAFE means we allow you to copy OAR files of your regions and to rollback 24 or 48 hrs automatically and on request rollbacks for up to 6 months.
SAFE means we scan every login to our grid and prevent access to copybot viewers, known copybotters and griefers.
All of these things are geared towards the resident suffering zero loss.
AMV currently runs on a modified 0.9.2 version of opensim with mods for EZombie and some time saving mods by the late Lananni Sundara.
In May 2024 the grid will be updated to run on the more efficient Nessie 0.9.3 latest stable dev release. AMV currently uses 7 large dedicated servers in a Chicago data center with excellent and fast connection to data highways. The First one of our 7 dedicated servers is our GRID Server, the other 6 are Region Servers. All our servers are interconnected by LAN to provide fast communication with each other. Our server provider maintains our servers which are wholly owned by them.
All important drives are protected by RAID configurations allowing replacement of faulty drives with no downtime. Our grid server runs typically at 6-12% cpu so we have lots of wriggle room.
We use file based Assets stored on a large raid configured drive, they are backed up over the LAN daily to two separate copies on our biggest region server.
Grid server databases are backed up locally every 3 hours and are immediately synced to our cloud server.
We store database copies for 2 days worth in the data center and in the cloud.
REGION SERVERS
Using large dedicated servers allows us to host regions efficiently and means we can offer Residents regions up to 10x10.
Regions are backed up to OAR files daily, stored on the Region server and synced to the cloud. Region databases are also saved every 4 hours and synced to the cloud and stored for two days. Regions are auto restarted every 24 hours when empty, tested hourly. Regions can be restarted manually on our website.
OARS on our cloud server mirror the Region servers plus weekly copies are stored for 2 months, after this monthly copies are stored for 6 months, then monthly files over 6 months are downloaded and stored at Cliff’s home.
Our regions are backed up as OAR files daily on the region servers, available for customer download or rollback (last 2-3 days).
AMV will load existing OAR Files onto any land you purchase at no cost to you.
We provide our residents with an avenue on our website where they can download their existing land OARs to their hard drive themselves at no cost
Residents may also perform rollbacks themselves within 2 days of and accidental terraform or building mishaps. Please be aware that all changes to the region will be lost that were made in between the rollback and the date of the region you are rolling back to.
Residents also have the power to restart their own regions – Log into Website, find the region in your profile tab.
Residents can also check how their region is running on our website.
IAR files can be backed up for you upon request and be made available for you to download, including large ones. Please be aware that they do take time to load and will take time to download onto a hard drive or other avatar as well.
An example of a very large IAR is Myself, Cataplexia Numbers. My inventory is roughly 315,000 items at my recent IAR. It took nearly 2 days to save, cost Cliff a lot of work to load and set into an alt avatar and was 132Gb in size.
I highly recommend you do not ever let your inventory exceed 150,000. This is where you begin to lose access to mass quantities of content and start having serious issues loading your inventory…..these are the reasons WHY I had to back mine up into an alt. I lose access to content often.
Clean and organize your inventory!
Clean your SUITCASE weekly and after every power shopping spree or it will slow you down and inhibit your teleporting and crash you often. It is meant to be a TEMPORARY storage so that you can travel lightly without loading your entire inventory!!
FIX IT BEFORE IT IS BROKEN
When our grid server died, and admittedly it did, we were back on our feet within less than 25 hours...with a brand new server, running perfectly – With ZERO losses suffered!
We keep assets doubly stored - so we lost NOTHING.
This is our ENTIRE OUTLOOK...the resident loses NOTHING...Period.
I was so adamant about that when I signed on for this because of what InWorldz did to me and countless friends
Everything breaks at some point - it’s how you recover that is important
everything breaks - you need to expect that - if not it leaves you unprepared and vulnerable.
GRID STATISTICS
copied from our website on 4/10/24
GridStatus: ONLINE Online_Now: 718
HG_Visitors_Last_30_Days: 1,487
Local_Users_Last_30_Days: 496
Total_Active_Last_30_Days: 1,983
Registered_Users: 3,673
Regions: 856 Var_Regions: 526 Single_Regions: 330 Total_LandSize(km2): 667 Login_URL: http://alternatemetaverse.com:8002
Website: https://alternatemetaverse.com
Login_Screen: https://alternatemetaverse.com
Version: 2020110101
LOGGING IN FOR THE FIRST TIME
Logging in to our Grid
Our web address is https://alternatemetaverse.com
Joining is free and open to all who accept our terms and pricay policy.
You will need a Viewer. We strongly recommend Firestorm for Open Simulator as your viewer which you can find on the “about “ tab of our website.
Our Grid is recognized by Firestorm, go back to your log in screen and type your name (first and last) and password, and choose Alternate Metaverse as the grid.
All residents get a free Mesh Avatar - there are about 20 to choose from. You may change this in any way once you have entered the grid.
Send in your email confirmation, if you cannot find it, wait a few minutes and check other folders such as spam, promotions etc. as sometimes email programs try resorting mail.
We have an external chat IM program which allows live text chat to our mentor and management team if you have any issues logging in.
As you enter you will be on AMV Welcome, and can travel all over the grid and Hypergrid from this point.
GRID STAFFING
Where each grid has generally one owner who runs around doing it all, we have two, and a huge well Trained & Educated staff of Mentors and Management. Our mentors even create land and answer support calls with knowledgeable and informative answers 24/7
MEET AMV STAFF AS OF APRIL 10, 2024
Clifford Hanger - Grid Owner & Technical Administrator
Cataplexia Numbers - Grid Owner/ Aesthetics, Content & Community Administrator Chris McCracken - Grid Manager / Senior Mentor
Lilie Finesmith - Grid Manager - Mall Manager & Lead Mentor
April McKenna - Assistant Grid Manager / Dean Of Education / Special Projects /Housing Sofee Supermarine - Publicist / Greeter
Ted Junior - Special Projects Manager/ Senior Mentor
Taffy Starr - AMV Mayor / Greeter/ Yardsale Manager
Desy Graywolf - Senior Mentor / Staff Educator /Housing Manager
Tyler Mathews - Housing Manager / Senior Mentor
Doc Mercury - Senior Mentor / Special Projects Staff
Chris Dayellis - Senior Mentor
Tingting Parx - Senior Mentor
Serenity Graywolf - Mentor
Winona Evergarden - Mentor
FREE HOUSING AVAILABLE
AMV provides Free Housing to all in need unless they chose not to. Free private homes are available on request at the following Homestead regions:
Homestead Riverville 1 Homestead Riverville 2 Homestead Riverville 3
Tiki Cove
AMV Neighborhood
We also have housing at AMV Community Farm – A community farming co-op housing and work project
ENTERTAINMENT, FESTIVALS & THE ARTS
We greatly support the arts by housing several Art Galleries, The Live Poets Society, OpenMic & Karaoke venues, and Live Theater venues on AMV. We provide support and celebration of visual, poetic, performing and multi-media arts.
For entertainment, Alternate Metaverse throws an annual Festivals of the Arts & Carnival, Fashion shows, Koryphon Academy Events & Classes, Burns Night events, Halloween, Christmas & New Years Events as \ well as Annual Winterfest, Autumnfest, AMV Birthday Parties, Valentines Parties, Easter egg hunts and Easter parties.
We have daily Late Night & Early morning parties @ AMV Welcome featuring some of the greatest Live Djs on the Hypergrid! We also feature grid sponsored bi-weekly live performances by the incredible Beccca Baxton, MrMikie String, Icky and Sum, BG Singer, joao Frazao, Mavenn Live, Khiron Ametza and Zoree Jupiter at various venues.
Additionally we provide our residents and HG visitors with several live performers and DJ events weekly, Check our website’s Grid Calendar tab and Opensim World events for dates/times & Events. We are open to all who wish to call Alternate Metaverse Grid their home!
EDUCATION
We teach not only residents but visitors as well for free at AMV’s Education Center, Koryphon Academy. We also have extensions to Koryphon Academy called Chakras In Motion and The Seed, which both are of a more Spiritual and New Age type of teachings (Chakras In Motion). The Seed features our weekly meetings of exploring home & self, meditation and inner growth both individually and as a grid community. We also have the Avatar Education Center for new/learning avatars.
Prim Building and Advanced Building Classes run through Autumn/Winter seasons with Rique Giano and are incredibly popular.
We offer a sound usage class every two weeks taught by Lorin Tone.
There is also Bible study education at Serenity Chapel and a school of Arts Magicans at Mystical Paths, both owned by private owners.
ROLEPLAY
Alternate Metaverse supports on-grid roleplay and is the home to the largest Game Of Thrones Roleplay venue in OpenSim. We also have Meridian- Mer meets human RP, Lycan & Gothic RP, Medieval fantasy RP & Heaven & Hell RP at Mythical Realms, Gilligan’s island /Fantasy & Gypsy Roleplay at Metasea, Zombie hunting Roleplay and Adult RP The Rendezvous. We do not have any Space themed Roleplay and quite frankly we look forward to that coming here, should Starfleet be joining Alternate Metaverse.
FOR THE SECOND LIFE REFUGEE
If you have made the adventurous journey from Second Life to Alternate Metaverse, you will notice right away that prim count availability is off the charts compared to Second Life. Add that to Open waters & Air, Attractive Mesh starter avatars, free Downloads and uploads, free shopping, free spacious homes available, free photos, free self partnering and de-partnering, Self OAR Saves/Rollbacks & Restarts via our website, God Mode availability, Free Education, and travel throughout the hypergrid to countless grids. You will feel as if you have finally found your happy place just sign up and THAT is free too!
THE FUTURE
Our main goal is to provide all of our residents with an inclusive, happy and creative atmosphere that they can feel comfortable to live in, with great entertainment and amenities already built into the grid, and they of course are free to build and add what they wish to add to this community.
We offer education and supportive chat on many levels such as our Talk To feature on our website for help, Discord Servers for both AMV & Koryphon Academy with AI sites in Mid Journey and Wambo for creating art, and Mumble Group Chat as well as in world voice. AMV has a very dedicated, supportive and well educated staff who is always happy to help newcomers, visitors and long term residents around the clock. We hold occasional Town hall meetings where everyone is free to contribute and inform our residents about new Grid Features, Events and plans for the future of AMV.
Happy Residents and Visitors make a happy grid, Simple Ethos!
BUYING LAND ON AMV
We provide land packages that we feel are very fairly priced, with the first two weeks of your land tier free credited! For a list of land prices and options such as water surrounds, isolated regions and god powers, Visit the land tab on our website at https://alternatemetaverse.com
We have pre-built regions we call Demos, some with homes, some only landscaping. These are available at ZERO COST to you when you purchase your land to place them on! We have several available from nature to beach themes and even fantasy!
The lowest land packages are 5 USD.
Billing options include invoice or AutoPay
Optional God Mode features are available.
We have open water /air features available as well.
For those without land, we provide starter parcels/houses free for residents to use in what we call Homesteads. Ask our staff if you are interested!
Overcrowding is prevented by simple rules over region placement:
No-one shall have populated regions adjacent unless both owners agree.
Grid connected regions will have “water” regions adjacent at least the same size as their region. Water regions are navigable by residents and visitors, vehicles my be used on all water regions by Residents.
ALL residents are free to use our open Air & Water regions for boating, flying, traveling and exploring!
AMV also offers audio streams (shoutcast or icecast) and video streams (suitable for teaching aids, movies and karaoke, in that all viewers see the same thing at the same time unlike YouTube style media).
Please take a look and let us know if you wish to be a part of our growing community!"
David7 thanked Cataplexia for the presentation and asked if anyone would like to ask any questions.
The very first question was from..
: Dolfke Barbosa: 1. do you use load balancing, and how many servers do you have at the data centre, I understood 7, but I may have misunderstood.
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : we do not use load balancing.
: Dolfke Barbosa: how do you move regions from one server to another pls ?
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse by copying the db and config files we rarely have to.
: Dolfke Barbosa: my second question is more basic,how much do you ask for a region and a VAR pls?
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : a 1x1 with 10k prims is $5, vars vary with size and water surrounds.
: Dolfke Barbosa: lets say a 4x4 VAR with 30.000 prims?
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : but 1 5z5 fully surrounded with sail-able water with 85k prims is $55,our standard 4x4 hs 70k prims at $40.
: Jedburgh Dagger : What sort of 'bench depth' do you have for your technical team, just as a worst case scenario, since having a succession plan is a very important issue given our current circumstances.
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : our mentors can solve most tech issues,in terms of disaster mitigation, Cat and i share our passwords and our phone numbers are known to managers,the datacenter takes calls 24/7
: Jedburgh Dagger : My other question is about your backup plan. Do you restore from backups as a test to confirm integrity periodically, or have other processes in place to ensure they work?
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse: we recently restored a dead grid server from raid drives,we periodically test rebuilding dbs from OAR files. 3 yrs ago we were hacked,we had to rebuild the grid server from backups, we lost 30 minutes of creation, and were back up in 4 hours.
: Michel Farrell : I have 3 questions. 1. We are used to meetings in text here, in that case people can read back minutes later who have not been able to attend the meeting. That is not possible with voice. How is that done in AMV when people are not able to attend the meeting ?
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse: we create a pre meeting notecard. When town hall meetings are conducted, distributed to attendees, I have a very detailed notecard, in a box for all to take, and on request to any resident.
: Michel Farrell : 2. What is God mode ? 3. What is the advantage of God mode ?
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : my stock answer is, if you need to ask, you don’t need it! but I let Cat explain.
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : Ok i shall give an example, I lived on Kitely for awhile, several stores, 17 regions, when i moved out i could not change perms on my own creations i made from scratch. I was stuck with huge beautiful castles i could not give away. When i went to OS Grid, I have my own servers and land, and ALL osg residents have God Mode. So I was able to make all of my stuff full perm again. Admittedly, i went to SL with a copybot viewer, to get MY OWN CREATIONS, i could not export them, because several megaprims were in the builds, and THOSE were created by others, so i had to copybot my own stuff. I luckily did not get caught.
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : in AMV region owners can ask for god mode to be removed completely, then no-one can copy incl. grid owners, not even upper management. And illegal viewers cannot gain god mode.
: David7 Bravin: You said that the Grid is "Adults only"...... How do establish if someone is an "adult" - especially as said that you do not require people to use their Real Life names to register ?
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : We get child avs all the time, that sign the TOS as adults, they do not make it past staff, We had so many visit that were all interested in two things, sex or cash from adults. We decided to ban them all. When i see a child come in, I say, Are you a child or an adult in a child av? If they say they are, and I direct them to leave and come back as an adult, as we do not accept children on the grid period. If they refuse and return as child avs, they are banned, if they tp away to another region...same.
: David7 Bravin: So it is Adult avatars only .…rather than RL Adults only?
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : There are some adults that are not like this but like Child avs, One is singer Rosy oGrady who LIVES THERE. We make her dress as an adult out on the grid, knowing she truly is an adult.
: Dolfke Barbosa: what about when a 10 year old child comes online as an adult ?
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : We cannot see them in RL if they are lying, we take them at their word and TOS agreement, we have no choice.
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : but if we have suspicions we can interview them
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : but if we were to hear someone on voice...yes we interview.
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : but as Cat says it is difficult to prove. Its not the most important thing on the grid.
: Alia Soulstar: If, for example, we took half a server, approx 32 regions, what would the total prim loading be for us to distribute between our regions? And what tools would we have at our disposal to self-organise?
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : we would use the model we have currently, each region owner or manager has access to a read only console. And can see real time CPU usage on our website, prims at 40-90k per region.
: Alia Soulstar: Yes, so how does taking a server differ from just using your rate card?
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : we normally create regions only up to 10x10, beyond that brings immeasurable lag no matter what grid you are on.
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : its not usually prims that create poor server performance, its bad scripts.
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : 10 x 10 VAR REGION - Equal to 100 SL Sims (2560x2560)
10 A) includes 1 10x10 VAR Region (the equivalent of 100 single regions) with Management Control of your region and regional God Mode rights.
10 B) Same as 10 A with a single edge connection to sailable waters.
Prim Allowance = 125,000 Prims
Cost for Package 10 A or 10 B - $125 USD Monthly or European Equivalent
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : That is our going rate for a 10x10
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : 5x5 VAR REGION (1280x1280)
5A) includes 1 5x5 VAR Region (the equivalent of 25 single regions) with Management Control of your region and regional God Mode rights.
5C) as 5A with a single edge connection to sailable waters.
Prim Allowance = 80,000 Prims
5B ) - as above plus, fully surrounded with sailable 5x5s [8] waters
Cost for Package 5A and 5C - 45 USD Monthly or European Equivalent
Cost for Package 5B - 55 USD Monthly or European Equivalent
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : 4x4 VAR Region (1024x1024)
4A) includes 1 4x4 VAR Region (the equivalent of 16 single regions) with Management Control of your region and regional God Mode rights.
4C) as 4A with a single edge connection to sailable waters.
Prim Allowance = 70,000 Prims
4B ) - as above plus, fully surrounded with sailable 4x4s [8] waters
Cost for Package 4A and 4C - 40 USD Monthly or European Equivalent
Cost for Package 4B - 50 USD Monthly or European Equivalent
: Alia Soalstar : So $500 is the top of your rate card?
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : its not on our rate card
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : the server at $500 will run upto 70 regions
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : its a special offer to your grid
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : total cost
: Alia Soulstar: I have read the rate card Cat, that's not my question. So if we buy a server we might want to make a 5x5, a 4x4 a 6x6, and so on with different prim loadings, no?
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse :8002: correct
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : We do not offer a million or more prims, that is highly impractical as you are paying MORE for the prims, and will be so lagged out you cannot use that many.
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : you can use whatever sized regions you wish, but if you use the prim counts from our rate cards, then a mixed offering would support 70 regions. But not if they were all heavily scripted 10x10s
: Alia Soulstar: What tools do we have to manage that globally as the buyer of the server, to organize our community estates and private estates is my question
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : You have staff to create them for you, just tell them what you want, we create any sized land super fast.
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : if you were to come to us, would you be integrating your regions with our "connected" grid? Or wanting a separate area?
: Alia Soulstar: There are different options but yes, we would integrate but, with a server or part server option we would look to enclave within your community with open borders of course
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse.com:8002: ok, we have studied opensim region crossings and some "old" rules are pertinent, regarding edge cases, "no region can have more than one region on any edge" we stick to that always, it means we can put 20 people on a boat and your grid crossings regions with minimal hiccups.
: Georgina Mills: You also have ready made OAR files you can lay down on different sized regions for users still? They were nicely landscaped already when I saw the website ages ago.
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : we do
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : they are still there and many more added to
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : there are more now.
: Ellemir Maven: Cliff, this is a bit deep for most of this group, but does your grid use a one region per simulator model?
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : for residential regions yes, we use multiple regions per simulator for water/interconnect regions.
: Ellemir Maven: then let me be more specific. If we were to get a full of 1/2 server, would it be one simulator per region.
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : yes excepting water regions. We limit those to 1000 prims.
: Cataplexia.Numbers @alternatemetaverse : Does anyone have any other questions?
: JayR Cela: 2 quick ones please / your server software / WIndows or Linux based is first ?
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : linux
: JayR Cela: #2 any particular reasons you are not currently employing any load balancing support?
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : we have never seen the need.
: Thoria Millgrove: Aside from the basic open sim source, how much of your platform is FOSS?
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : I have never used FOSS knowingly, we use ubuntu20.04 currently.
: Thoria Millgrove: Huh? FOSS = Free and Open Source Software, open sim is FOSS.
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : ok, all our software is open source. Ubuntu, apache, mysql, php, mono are our main tools.
: Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse : sorry i thought i saw a software company called FOSS.
: Thoria Millgrove: OK, thanks.
: David7 Bravin: If there are no more questions,Then on behalf of everyone here - Please accept our thanks Cataplexia and Clifford for the presentation, and answering the many questions - much appreciated !
After that, we had a rather lengthy after meeting. I will leave how that went to your imagination.
The next two weeks had two more presentations in store, before a decision was made.
Story to continue in : My Virtual Life after 3rd Rock Grid's Closure : part 4
JayR Cela :_)
